Im confused about being bisexual....[Long Read]

[W1ld Bill]

This is kind of a response/expansion of the thread newarkhiphop made about there being no bisexuality. But apparently there's something that I'm missing....

The general consensus (not just on this board but in society) is that the instant a person sleeps with a person of the same sex that their labeled as gay/lesbian regardless of their previous or future sexual endeavors

So following that rationale, if a person has slept with 500 people of the opposite sex and then sleeps with one person of the same sex, regardless of the reason, they are labeled as gay/lesbian.

On the same note, if a person were to sleep with 1 person of the same sex but then in the future sleeps with nothing but people of the opposite sex they'd still be considered gay/lesbian


But if you think about it logically, using numbers and mathematics, something that is concrete, that only way a person could be considered gay/lesbian is if majority of the people that they slept with were of the same sex.

So if a person sleeps with a 100 people lets say, in order to be considered gay/lesbian, atleast 51 of those people would have to be people of the same sex right? Right. Or they would atleast have to feel like they sleep/slept with a more significant amount of people from the same sex vs. the opposite sex. The same logic would be applied for straight people.

Now, if a person sleeps with a 100 people and 50 of them are people of the same sex and 50 of them are of the opposite sex that would mean that they either have no preference to either male or females or they have an equal preference for both male and females (aka bisexual) right? Right. Or they would atleast have to feel like the amount of people they sleep/slept with of the same sex vs the opposite sex averages out to around half.


So if all that makes sense like i know it does, why is everyone so quick to call a person gay/lesbian the instant they sleep with someone of the same sex regardless of previous or future sexual relations and why are people against the idea of bisexuality existing?

[PLAYBOY™]

So if all that makes sense like i know it does, why is everyone so quick to call a person gay/lesbian?

because


the instant they sleep with someone of the same sex regardless of previous or future sexual relations

means their gay

[PLAYBOY™]

engaging in sexual intercourse with a member of the same sex means
u are gay/lesbian

i can understand some girls getting drunk or w.e. and doing stupid, slutty shit
and labeling it "experimentation" or "accidental" or w/e

but if ur in ur normal state of mind..and u say to urself...
i wanna sleep with someone of the same sex..and u willingly
have sex with this person and enjoy it..u are gay/lesbian

i really dont believe in bisexuality

the only people who try to label themselves bisexual are gay men who
try to take some of the persecution off of themselves by saying they also sleep with women
or girls who think guys wanna hear that they swing both ways

there are VERY few cases in which someone has the same amount of attraction for
both sexes equally

[ßųşŧą Ņůţ]

the truth is...women are good looking to anyone...even women...so women think some women are hot and do shit with them. I think the biggest reason for bisexuality is cuz you don't get labeled as a slut or if she has a bf its not considered cheating

[viciuzurban]

this is just faggot political correctness gone whacked the instant gratification of male male sex doesnt mean that you are instantly gay thats a gross misrepresentation a farce and a total fucked up generalisation most people on this board have. once you change your minute and egotistical views the world will be a better place.

its okay for female female interaction but once a nigga try it on with another nigga yall quick to hate

sexual orientation is nothing more than a preference, an opinion, a persons characteristic, an attribute of the total self. if you judge somone based purely on this then you are insekhur bitches

[W1ld Bill]

Look at this for an example...

If you usually eat chocolate ice cream but one time eat vanilla, no one is gonna accuse you of being a vanilla ice cream lover because u ate vanilla ice cream once. At best you'll be seen as having a preference for both

Its the same principle. If a guy does nothing but sleep with woman but at one point or another sleeps wiht a guy. He's instantly seen as gay. Not even as bi. Why is that?

What im tryin to get at i guess is that although gay and lesbianism has become less taboo then it once was, people still seem to blindly accept societies notion that the thought of being gay/lesbian/bi is unnacceptable which allows people to quickly pass judgement and wrongfully catergorize even though logic (what i illustrated in the other post) would object to that

[PLAYBOY™]

the instant gratification of male male sex doesnt mean that you are instantly gay

re-read that statement of urs and u tell me if that makes any sense to you

sexual orientation is nothing more than a preference, an opinion, a persons characteristic, an attribute of the total self. if you judge somone based purely on this then you are insekhur bitches

agreed...i dont judge people by sexual orientation

what u wanna do is ur business

but the question hes asking is why are "bi-sexual"people being labeled 'gay'

and they're being labeled gay because if ur having sex with same-sex partners

u are indeed gay/lesbian

[_†ђΣ PЯǿblΣm]

shit idk! i dont gotta worrie abou anythign like this i stick to my girl but props for takin time and typin all this

[W1ld Bill]

this is just faggot political correctness gone whacked the instant gratification of male male sex doesnt mean that you are instantly gay thats a gross misrepresentation a farce and a total fucked up generalisation most people on this board have. once you change your minute and egotistical views the world will be a better place.

its okay for female female interaction but once a nigga try it on with another nigga yall quick to hate

sexual orientation is nothing more than a preference, an opinion, a persons characteristic, an attribute of the total self. if you judge somone based purely on this then you are insekhur bitches
Good shit, perfect expanison on what im saying. Appreciate the input.

[PLAYBOY™]

Look at this for an example...

If you usually eat chocolate ice cream but one time eat vanilla, no one is gonna accuse you of being a vanilla ice cream lover because u ate vanilla ice cream once. At best you'll be seen as having a preference for both

naw man u cant compare food to sexual prefrences

ur trying to make it seem like...if u sleep with 500 women and 1 dude
ur not gay because ur extreme heterosexuality out-weighs the gay experience

which is untrue because if ur aroused to the same sex and ur sleeping
with members of the same sex ur gay man

[W1ld Bill]

but the question hes asking is why are "bi-sexual"people being labeled 'gay'

and they're being labeled gay because if ur having sex with same-sex partners

u are indeed gay/lesbian

but how does sleeping with just 1 person of the same sex make you gay even if before and after that all you do is sleep with people of the opposite sex?

Thats just not makin sense to me

[PLAYBOY™]

but how does sleeping with just 1 person of the same sex make you gay even if before and after that all you do is sleep with people of the opposite sex?

Thats just not makin sense to me

u cant sit here and tell me that a dude sleepin with a dude is not
homosexual behavior

the only guys who sleep with other guys..are GAY guys

same goes for women

now im not against sexuality of any kind but if u dont understand
why people who sleep with the same sex (even if its "one time") are labeled
homosexual..then i dont know what to say

[W1ld Bill]

ur trying to make it seem like...if u sleep with 500 women and 1 dude
ur not gay because ur extreme heterosexuality out-weighs the gay experience

which is untrue because if ur aroused to the same sex and ur sleeping
with members of the same sex ur gay man

somehow society has it that if you sleep with women but sleep with one dude your not even generally seen as bi, your thrown all the way to the opposite side of the spectrum and seen as gay.

by that logic, if a gay person had his first sexual encounter with a man and then slept with nothing but woman that would mean he would now stop being gay and be seen as straight, however you NEVER see that happen

[W1ld Bill]

u cant sit here and tell me that a dude sleepin with a dude is not
homosexual behavior

Homosexual behavior is too general a statement. Many people would agree that tapping another mans ass is homosexual behavior yet sports players are not instantly labeled as gay.

[PLAYBOY™]

Homosexual behavior is too general a statement. Many people would agree that tapping another mans ass is homosexual behavior yet sports players are not instantly labeled as gay.

im talking about sexual intercourse


a man having sexual intercouse with another man is homosexual behavior

[W1ld Bill]

im talking about sexual intercourse


a man having sexual intercouse with another man is homosexual behavior

agreed but my point still stands

somehow society has it that if you sleep with women but sleep with one dude your not even generally seen as bi, your thrown all the way to the opposite side of the spectrum and seen as gay.

by that logic, if a gay person had his first sexual encounter with a man and then slept with nothing but woman that would mean he would now stop being gay and be seen as straight, however you NEVER see that happen

There's an inconsistancy

having sexual intercourse with a woman is heterosexual behavior yet if a gay man who sleeps with nothing but gay men but sleeps with 1 woman he's not seen as straight he's still seen as gay. So why the double standard?

[viciuzurban]

What if a straight man gives another dude a blowjob is that the same standard?

[viciuzurban]

^ i guess that pretty much puts all that fucked up illegimitacies to rest! Can u feel the tension....

[Cameosis]

u are what you say you are...fuck what other niggas say about you. If you sleep with 100 homos and then 1 girl u can call yaself str8, bisexual, or whatever. I dont give a damn what you call yourself, but it makes me wonder why a str8 nigga would care so much :smh:

[viciuzurban]

lmao cos sometimes it hurts hahahaha

[rated_ex]

This is the only guy on RN that comes with the real talk and thinks before he posts.

[W1ld Bill]

u are what you say you are...fuck what other niggas say about you. If you sleep with 100 homos and then 1 girl u can call yaself str8, bisexual, or whatever. I dont give a damn what you call yourself, but it makes me wonder why a str8 nigga would care so much :smh:

Its not about a straight dude caring so much about gay people. Thats not the point I'm tryin to make at all.

What im trying to do, in a subtle round about way, is have people illustrate, and hopefully acknowledge thier prejudice and ignorance towards gay people just because their gay and society says that gay is wrong.

The ignorance that society enstills in us allows us to blindly accept things without thinking for ourself. Ignorance does nothing but cause people to jump on the bandwagon because they don't know the real facts and/or can't think for themselves.

Like i said in my earlier posts, people are so quick to instantly catergorize someone as gay or lesbian the instant they sleep with someone of the same sex regardless of other circumstances, such as them still sleeping with and being attracted to the opposite sex aka bisexuality which people believe doesn't exist and fine that's their opinion

But hasn't no one person in here that objects to my veiwpoints answered me yet as to why a straight person can sleep with a person of the same sex and automatically be classified as gay but if a gay person sleeps with a person of the opposite sex they aren't catapulted to the other side of the spectrum and seen as straight. At best their seen as bi, but since there's people that don't believe in bisexuality that means they're still gay right?

Am I the only person that sees something wrong with this inconsistant rationale?

[Luda167]

eventually a person is gonna prefer one gender over the other... thus eliminating the whole bisexual idea that floats around..

so all in all. there really is nothing such as being bi.
because if u think about it. a guy cant love to girls. in one way or the other he's gonna prefer one over the other..

that same ideology is applied to the whole bisexual issue

[W1ld Bill]

eventually a person is gonna prefer one gender over the other... thus eliminating the whole bisexual idea that floats around..

so all in all. there really is nothing such as being bi.
because if u think about it. a guy cant love to girls. in one way or the other he's gonna prefer one over the other..

that same ideology is applied to the whole bisexual issue

ok, you say that you can't love to things equally and that you will eventually prefer one over the other, for arguments sake lets say i agree with that but check this


It would make sense to say that gay and straight are on opposite sides of the spectrum and bisexuality would be in the middle right? ok...

Now if a person says their bisexual but by your logic there is no such thing as bisexuality that means they have to either be catergorized as either gay or straight right? ok...

Now that means this guy (lets say its a guy) has to prefer woman over men or vice versa. So if he says I prefer woman over men even though he's had sexual relations with men he's still look upon as gay because of the fact that he's engaged in homosexual activity at one point or another...

If he says I prefer men over woman then its obvious he's gay. No question there.

There's an inconsistancy there...

Just to sum it up. There's a spectrum...

Gay--------------Bi----------------Straight

But if bisexuality doesn't exist that means the person has to be seen as either straight or gay and it seems with bisexuality out the question, the person will always be seen as gay.

Why?


*inspires me to make new thread*

[kazakvitaly]

because



means their gay
thank you and tell wild fruity bill to stop tryin to justify his hetersexuality, hesa fruit if he even slept in the same bed as a dude, u know why.

cause knowin him he was prolly questionin his sexuality while in bed with a man.

thats matt sheperd gay.

[FuCkDaPrEz305]

i THINK iM bI...i LOOK AT WOMEN..., AS FAR AS THAT FRUITY TUTTI SHIT WITH BOYS....HELL NAW!

[W1ld Bill]

thank you and tell wild fruity bill to stop tryin to justify his hetersexuality, hesa fruit if he even slept in the same bed as a dude, u know why.

cause knowin him he was prolly questionin his sexuality while in bed with a man.

thats matt sheperd gay.

First off you don't know me. Never even seen your dumbass before

Second, if you wasn't such a dumbass you'd realize that me being able to make this thread and engage in intelligent conversation about it (something you apparently know nothing about) doesn't make me question my sexuality. A dumbass like you wouldn't understand that it only solidifies the fact that Im secure with my sexuality.

Third, according to you I'm trying to justify my heterosexuality but yet im a fruit? :smh: If you gonna try to insult someone atleast do it right.

[z.Designs]

um...im confused..:eek:

[InYourDreams]

personally i think if youre gonna insult someone u should spell it right

[THC]

personally i think if youre gonna insult someone u should spell it right

lol you so anal about that i see you post that up everywheres :laugh:

[InYourDreams]

yeah i guess i am...It just kinda bothers me to see uneducated people voicing opinions and believing them to be fact

[THC]

yeah i guess i am...It just kinda bothers me to see uneducated people voicing opinions and believing them to be fact

understandable :girly:

[T®££§420]

man I think there more important things in this world right now then to change or worry about the homo rights and views of them,Isn't like there throw in jail,Isn't like they have separate bathrooms and water fountains,Isn't like there stoned in the streets,If a man/men/women calles you a bitch cuz u wore a skirt one day and u wore jeans all your life does that make you a bitch,no it doesn't cause someone calls you something doesn't mean you are,thats all up to you and what ever you choose.man/women can call and have views of there own.Rather what ever they think it FITS the catoregry,gays are cool with me,as long they dont try that shit with me.every man/women have rights to do w.e they want in there own homes in the bedroom.bet yes that would make u homo if u sleep with another man,Man=Women Women=Man,Now Think of it this way,man grows up to like gurls,what makes you gay is when u fall from that and u eyes start woundering on to guys,Now if u think ur gay or w.e and ur LOOKING at guys in the way thats not hetro then yes,you have homo in you,cause you looking at another male sexualy,once u go that way you consider homo if u just like guys,I my view on Bi is u like both,and yes i blieve people can be Bi,some people like guys and gurls,cuz of pros and cons,so there pretty much set down the middle between both,don't see why another guy would like another guy but w.e thats there biz,I, didn't read tha thread about bi shit,but i dont no y people cant think gurls,guys w.e cant like dicks and pussy,its all personal prefences,if people have diffrent prefences there free to voice there opinion don't matter how fucking mean,disgusting,inogrent,w.e,you can take it w.e way you want there words,if some one calls u a fag,u got ways off dealing with it,so whats the problem?if some one thinks there gay meaning there liking someing on the other side,then yes your gay,you have an intrest into men,but once u get to that point wen ur there with ur dick in a hairy asshole,then u go o wait i dont like this shit,and go to gurls again,yea u were gay and u still are cuz theres things u like about guys weather its looks,personality,w.e,its all personal prefences,you u like this but u dont like that,you can like sumin equaly even if there diffrent,

[streets]

no need for classifications. If you wanna do something, or try something, why worry about what you may be classified as? I know chicks that mess with chicks, but do not consider themselves "bisexual". and I know lesbians that do not consider all chicks that sleep with chicks "bisexual". At the end of the day, who cares? we fight to classify things, some things don't need classification. Its a society thing.

So, if I don't mess with dudes, and I like chicks that like chicks, what do you call me? Some would say "i got issues", but do I care? I like what I like.